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Old 09-12-2006, 11:44 PM
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Alexandrine?

MsJ - HELPPPPP!!!!!

I do not understand this Alexandrine form!

12 syllables - I get that.
Couplets do not have to rhyme - I get that.

Then you wrote:
Thus the ALEXANDRINE COUPLET is 2 rhumed lines of 12 syllables each.

So I assume that the Alexandrine is made up of 2, 12 syllable lines (24 syllables in all) that form a rhyming couplet. BUT THEN, when I look at your example:

Example by Jacquii Cooke:

Where Heaven Glows

Throughout the night
The wind doth blow
Heavy secrets of shadows' bliss and romance.
Such lust binds thy heartstrings in longings of France.
On precipice: light
Where heaven glows.


I see that line 1 has 4 syllables, Line 2 has 4 syllables, Line 3 has 11 syllables, Line 4 has 11 syllables, Line 5 has 5 syllables and line 6 has 4 syllables for a total of 39 syllables and even allowing for the fact that sometimes 12 syllables won't fit on one line, 39 is still too many syllables for 2 lines, or not enough syllables for 4 lines!

This I don't get! What am I missing?



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Old 09-13-2006, 12:46 AM
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Sorry, MsJ, I find your example misleading.

The alexandrine form is rooted in both German and French.

An alexandrine couplet is also supposed to be in hexambic pentameter, so 12 syllables, with the beat on every second syllable.

Jan Haag has this beautiful example:
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A dark and gloomy day, pigmented by the moon --
who failed to set, who failed to leave, who would not swoon

into the thickness of the night, into the cloud
that dark, with glimmering rim, invited like a shroud

of sacrilegious candles lit to shine along
the way of strange behavior, odd, eccentric, strong

and motivated, misalignment, across the dune
which even the isolated, lonely, haunted loon

forsook, and pushed its dark head into the lake, bowed
by the shocking ineptitude of time banging and loud

-- ended inevitably in darkness to prolong
what would otherwise end with a resounding gong.
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:31 AM
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I see a time-out for MsJ
it would be, could be nice - as everybody needs a timeout sometime...
(dot dot dot)
anyway - will take a look at it when sober...
(dot dot dot)

Thanx for bringing it to my attention

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Old 09-14-2006, 08:51 AM
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Ms. Haag's example is indeed a beautiful one, albeit quite tedius to read... Thought I'd mix it up a bit with my example.... Ooops - seems the lines I meant as the alexandrine couplet was indeed 11 syllables instead of the mandated 12...

Thanx you guys for bringing that to my attention. Perfection is a little too much to ask of anyone - even your fearless MsJacquiiC

I have now corrected the example and I hope is sufficient...
http://jpicforum.info/types-poetry/alexandrine-couplet-660.html#post3056:
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Where Heaven Glows

Throughout the night
The wind doth blow
Heavy secrets of shadows bliss-kissed with romance.
Such a lust binds thy heartstrings in longings of France.

On precipice: light
Where heaven glows.

Throughout the night
The wind doth howl
Lingering moments of a blinded ecstacy
Where memoried pleasures are just so next to me

On precipice: light
Where wolves do yowl.



in the above example lines 3 & 4 and lines 9 & 10 are the alexandrine couplets.
2 rhyming 12-syllabled lines that work as a unit



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Old 09-15-2006, 12:47 AM
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A MUCH better example, thank-you.
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Thank you AMZY - nice comment indeed!

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